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I see where you're coming from with Scott and Jean, but I also am SO tired of the loveless lives of superheroes as a story. There's a reason why so many people were aggravated by One More Day. It came on the heels of too many writers deciding that a character is only interesting when CHASING love instead of living it. I think that and Identity Crisis (poor Sue Dibney) were the one/two punch that killed my appetite for breaking up highly established romances in comics. Superman should ALWAYS be with Lois. Peter Parker should ALWAYS stay with Mary Jane, and Jean should always be with Scott. The Emma story was interesting, but largely because it started when Jean was having one of her many episodes of being dead.

My hope was Marvel would create a Weapon X Disney+ series where each episode focused on a different hero or villain that went through the program.

Just keep Wolverine as a supporting character in the main films, and make him the lead of his own spin off series.

Woo rogue

Even beyond Jean, Emma, and clones thereof (lookout Cuckoos!), any time Scott Summers has a relationship lapse, he almost always immediately finds another woman eager to cuddle up with him. When the X-Men thought Jean and Beast died in a volcano (long story), suddenly he was spending a lot of time with Colleen Wing. After "Jean" died as the Phoenix, he met a woman named Lee Forrester to pal around and wash up on Magneto's island with. Even Madelyn Pryor falls into this category somewhat, with the added twist she turned out to be Jean's clone. But the key defining factor in all these relationships is that as soon as Scott finds out Jean's alive again, he drops them like yesterday's tacos and goes back to her without so much as a "seeya!" In fact, I'd say Emma falls into this category too, for the same reason, despite him starting up with her a bit before Jean dies for once.

Nando you should do a video where you discuss the storylines of X-Men movies in the order in which they should be made into movies in the MCU You wouldn’t have to write fan screenplays but just give your thoughts on whether a movie about Apocalypse should be before or after a Phoenix movie, or before or after a Days of Future Past movie Because I think the Fox X-Men movies really stuffed up the order of these massive consequential stories as I’m not sure whether the Phoenix stuff is bigger threat or better movie to end on than an Apocalypse movie

Marvel Studios should do what X-Men Evolution did After having X-Men TAS in the 90s which had such a big focus on Jean and the Phoenix and Dark Phoenix saga we didn’t really see much of that in following animated show In X-Men Evolution there’s only one episode where Jean Loses control and it’s not the Phoenix force but it had hints to it but it was just her growing powers and then in the future scene in the finale we see that Jean might become the Phoenix But the character who went through the most suffering and had a destiny connected with the plot was not Jean but Rogue and I think that’s what they could do in the MCU Have Rogue be a villain and a member of the Brotherhood for a movie in the MCU and then join the X-Men and have her be the key to a lot of the stories she wouldn’t be the main character just like X-Men Evolution And then maybe after all that then you could do Phoenix stuff

Had to pause at 3:07 because Nando with his track record of liking the coolest mutants hating Rahne was NOT on my 2024 bingo card

lol yeah I was coming here for that.

It’s not the X-men movie. It’s the speculation advice and apprehension we encounter along the way

One of my favorite lines in X-Men 97 is when Logan says "you're Jean Grey. He's Scott Summers. Those are the rules." Like yeah, we're kind of always told they're the couple, they always will be the couple, no questions asked.

If Wolverine gets as much time as Gambit he will not be on the movies. Gambit is not a B-Lister to me.

If Wolverine gets as much time as Gambit he will not be on the movies.

Talking about power signatures, one piece comic does this really well, every abstract power looks distinct even without any color.

not a bad itinerary. i have just one addition: find a way to get chris clairmont on the project in an advisory role. i am hard pressed to think of any one person who understands these characters and stories better than that guy.

Calling Cyclops dumb because he feels guilty for “abandoning” his son and then accepts it’s what necessary is a wild take. Add to that you think he wants to sleep with Wolverine and it’s just ironic.

I like those X-Men movies

You should have timestamps for when you’re actually playing a game

On a more abstract level: Feige has always mandated the MCU movies have "no messages" in them. All spectacle, no substance. But X-Men '97 was ABOUT things: the grim quotidian reality of oppression, the complex relationships and expectations between parents and children, finding yourself in a world that won't let you be yourself, all the myriad ways the majority can let you down if you're a member of a minority, the cycle of trauma and how to break it-even just gesturing at these themes is more than the live-action stories have ever been allowed to do. So my main hope is that the near-universal critical acclaim for X97 (and those cold hard streaming numbers) inspires those restrictions to lighten up a bit.

jeremy allen white as wolverine. He's short, recently gain muscle and a fantastic actor!

I love Marvels Midnight Suns

Feige, bring us the Dommy Mommy!!!

The looming threat of Dark Phoenix is a fundamental part of Jean's character. I agree that they shouldn't rush into a full Dark Phoenix story, but the hints of it I think are very interesting.

Dark Phoenix is like the Venom Spider-Man story. It is cool but we really don’t need to see it again.

Love that you've brought up power signatures. I think to some extent, the MCU already does this well. Wanda's chaos magic, Ms. Marvel's hard light, and the Kamar Taj glyphs are all extremely memorable. One of the reasons Strange is my favorite MCU character is his how evocative and unique the magic looks when he uses it.

25:25 pretty sure that means The Suicide Squad is also DCU now

Short form of the above... treat the complex characters like complex characters. Let us know them over more than one movie. If Jean goes Phoenix in the first or second movie we've known her two hours.... tops? Part of that was watching someone they knew... loved for years go bad and not be able to help. EARN that emotion, don't just cash in.

Crapping on Rahne? Them fighting words. Especially when I can name 30 worse Mutant characters.

I don’t think Wolverine got so much attention from Fox because they loved him. I think they liked bed how people responded to Jackman in the role. The real challenge will be both not leaning too much on whoever is the new Wolvie, plus resisting the urge to center any other breakout character that might pop like he did.

I think we need less world-ending threats

Even though Cyclops is the leader and Wolverine is not I guess in live action it all depends on which character has the bigger movie star attached to them and that is the deciding factor for leadership.

It’s crazy how polarizing Mutant Mayhem is for TMNT for TMNT fans, they either love it or hate it

This Rogue DISRESPECT will NOT be tolerated 😂

Agree with ALLLL 5. 100%

I’m ready for Cyclops to take over the Steve Rodger’s archetype in the mcu

Yeah, that X-Men helicopter scene would have looked more dynamic if there were visible blue/white ripples streaming off of it, and a pink or orange mist was swirling around it, sort of fighting for dominance. I will say though, I don't even want to include Jean. I think the first movie should be structured around Giant Sized with largely the same team, and Jean should probably be out of the picture. The girls should be Storm, Rogue, Kitty, Psylocke, and maybe Emma, in that order. I do like the idea of a Goblyn Queen arc, but it's such a slow burn for MCU properties. I think if they do any big "X-Men focused whole MCU Endgame fiestas," it should be House of M.

Rogue fan here to prove you right. I mean... yes she's in third place but also I love her

5 lesson Marvel Studios can learn from themselves

one thing i ABSOLUTELY want them to do is a Spider-Man and Kitty Pryde Romcom Team-Up Movie that WOULD GO SO HARD

Rogue is the embodiment of being a mutant. More curse than blessing. Without being able to be part of a world that hates her or get closer to those who love her. It may not be Omega level on the power scale, but it is in our hearts :D

The lesson that Nightcrawler can be wise and a fun loving badass is key.

Storm and Cyclops should be the main leaders especially Cyclop

6. People will watch shows with quality writing, even if they are 2D animated. There's no way they can keep up making shows that cost as much as movies, that have no independent source of revenue. Animation is a potential antidote for bloated production costs on streaming.

If you have to make a HOUR long video explaining what a story was about, it was Not Obvious. Also, he's really equivocating on what it means for a story to be 'about' something. Also, google "selection bias".

Jean got to do her own thing? She was dead for that decade!

Every Peter she can find. Parker, Quill and Rasputin

I was with you about everything until you said to split up scott and jean 😂 that's the worst take and unnecessary

should just make an animated X-Men movie on par with the Spider-Verse movies with all these lessons live action demands a lot of compromise in consideration for the limits of real humans playing mutants

yup they were a trouple in krakoa

My number one lesson: allow emotional moments to be. Don't undercut a serious scene with humor. Let genuine moments and dialogue be genuine.